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INTERMITTENT STARTING PROBLEM
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Checking in to an old thread as I search for a solution. My 03 Daytona 955 has had some weak starting, in cold, and if I dont use tender. Tried a sealed gel battery, seems great as long as I don't stupidly leave lights on! Research here ant on Triumph rat has led me to plan replacing battery/starter leads with bigger wires for better sterting, connecting the regulator/rectifier directly to battery for better recharging, or replacing Rectifier. (All ideas from the genius electricians at Triumph rat!) Not exactly the non function of starter button problem that this thread addressed long ago, but in the same neighborhood!
Hi guys, I have a 2013 t100 with only 2600 miles on it. Today it's developed a couple of issues:
Won't start on the button and therefore needs to be bounced.
The speedo is wandering about and not reading accurately.
Lumpy running when cruising along,fine when under load.
I dare not take her out again until I sort this as I need to bounce start the thing !!!
I have found a relay behind the left cover 4rd 933 332 05 , could this be the problem ????
Won't start on the button and therefore needs to be bounced.
The speedo is wandering about and not reading accurately.
Lumpy running when cruising along,fine when under load.
I dare not take her out again until I sort this as I need to bounce start the thing !!!
I have found a relay behind the left cover 4rd 933 332 05 , could this be the problem ????
Check that your battery cables are secured tightly. Someone else was having similar troubles, at this thread:
A gaggle of intermittent troubles
A gaggle of intermittent troubles
Yep all tight, I will charge battery overnight and hopefully start her up tomorrow. I'll check battery with meter at cold and running to see if the rectifier cct is ok.
Hi, Paul: I answered your conversation post and just to add to this thread, I keep my '12 on a battery tender whenever possible and it will still pull the "parlor trick" on occasion.
Paul, sounds like a ground problem, check all the connections and ground straps. Relay's can deal some missary from time to time so you are right to check that too.
Checked the battery this morn, 12.4V and 12.3V with Ign on. Engine turned over fine so this voltage threshold may not be full story. Like others, can ride for 30 miles, stop for petrol and no start after filling up so is it just down to voltage. Charging is fine so why does it start from cold with low voltage but not start after battery is at a higher state of charge.
Gotta think about that!!!!!!
That sounds like it could be a dead spot in the starter motor i had a guzzi with the same thing seemed to start from cold but once warm it could act up at any time , it would start up fine 7 out of 10 times but now and again it would just be dead !
And trying to bump start 1000cc twin is no fun at all especially 100 miles from home with not a hill or a slop for miles ... very frustrating !!
And trying to bump start 1000cc twin is no fun at all especially 100 miles from home with not a hill or a slop for miles ... very frustrating !!
shanered6, you may have hit upon something there, could be a dead spot on the stator inside the starter.
Feliks D.
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Feliks D.
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Hi
I'm not mechanically inclined but I have a question. I have a 2014 T100. Bought it brand new from dealer in 9/2015 and in two years put over 16k miles on it.
Never had starting problems. Yesterday I did the usual, turn on key, turn on red switch, pull in clutch.... No start.
Did a few times turning on and off.
Nothing
Did it again. Started. Turned it off to see what happens. Same as above. Eventually started.
Managed to get home from work.
This morning same, but didn't even start. Had to take car to work and called dealer. He said it's either the clutch switch, the button itself, or the starter.
So gonna tow it in. But what do YOU think it is, why not starting?
I'm not mechanically inclined but I have a question. I have a 2014 T100. Bought it brand new from dealer in 9/2015 and in two years put over 16k miles on it.
Never had starting problems. Yesterday I did the usual, turn on key, turn on red switch, pull in clutch.... No start.
Did a few times turning on and off.
Nothing
Did it again. Started. Turned it off to see what happens. Same as above. Eventually started.
Managed to get home from work.
This morning same, but didn't even start. Had to take car to work and called dealer. He said it's either the clutch switch, the button itself, or the starter.
So gonna tow it in. But what do YOU think it is, why not starting?
Your dealer is probably right with the clutch switch i dont think it will be starter the other thing to check is the side stand switch , if its ether of them its easy to tell just unplug the cable from the switch and use a wire to bridge between the two wires and if it starts then its the switch .
Brenda
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My 2010 T100 has had this intermitant problem for a while now.
4 months ago I replaced the Dynavolt battery with a new Yuasa.
And still the problem continues.
It has developed today to not starting at all. My friend came to my asistance and we jump started it with a Toyota hooked up with leads.
I have had the battery on charge at home and it is still playing up.
I have checked all connections by undoing them and tighten up again.
My side stand switch looks a bit dodgy it's loose and not doig anything .
I didn't even know it had one because it has never done any thing.
If it doesn't start in the morning and take the battery to the place I bought it and get it checked.
Also I have seen online about joining the brown wire to the black wire and doing away with the side stand switch altogether.
We will see what tomorow brings.
4 months ago I replaced the Dynavolt battery with a new Yuasa.
And still the problem continues.
It has developed today to not starting at all. My friend came to my asistance and we jump started it with a Toyota hooked up with leads.
I have had the battery on charge at home and it is still playing up.
I have checked all connections by undoing them and tighten up again.
My side stand switch looks a bit dodgy it's loose and not doig anything .
I didn't even know it had one because it has never done any thing.
If it doesn't start in the morning and take the battery to the place I bought it and get it checked.
Also I have seen online about joining the brown wire to the black wire and doing away with the side stand switch altogether.
We will see what tomorow brings.
If nothing else that joining of wires to each other will be a good test, you will be by-passing the switch.
Brenda
Member
Today all is good again. I had the battery on charge all night but the headlight wasn't going dull when I tried to start before, so it's still a mystery.
It's been a long time since I originally posted on this subject, and my T100 still pulls the "parlor trick" every now and then. I simply have learned to live with it.
I must be getting old: Jim
I must be getting old: Jim
Brenda
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Yes back when I used to live in the Northern Territory and I was riding a 1963 bonneville I used to know every roadhouse that had a battery charger.
But that was Lucas .
Triumph has managed to stay with the old days with modern gear.
I will nut it out.
Wobbly side stand switch does not live on the motorcycle now.
And battery fully charged.
On my bike tomorrow.
Hi, Brenda: Hope that is the end to your problem. All my early Triumphs were 1966 or later..............never really had a battery charging problem with them, luckily.
Jim
Jim
