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Seeing as DaveM is always giving us Jozi'ites such stick, here's a little info about MY city:y2:

Johannesburg is located in the eastern plateau area of South Africa known as the Highveld, at an elevation of 1,753 metres (5,751 ft). The former CBD is located on the south side of the prominent ridge called the Witwatersrand (Afrikaans: White Water's Ridge) and the terrain falls to the north and south. By and large the Witwatersrand marks the watershed between the Limpopo and Vaal rivers. The north and west of the city has undulating hills while the eastern parts are flatter.
Johannesburg may not be built on a river or harbour, but its streams are the source of two of southern Africa's mightiest rivers. (Ahem Dave) A number of streams meander through the suburbs of Johannesburg, and form the source of two of southern Africa's primary rivers – the Limpopo and the Orange. Most of the springs from which many of these streams emanate are now covered in concrete and canalised, accounting for the fact that the names of early farms in the area often end with "fontein", meaning "spring" in Afrikaans. Braamfontein, Rietfontein, Zevenfontein, Doornfontein, Zandfontein and Randjesfontein are some examples. When the first white settlers reached the area that is now Johannesburg, they noticed the glistening rocks on the ridges, running with trickles of water, fed by the streams – giving the area its name, the Witwatersrand, "the ridge of white waters". Another explanation is that the whiteness comes from the quartzite rock, which has a particular sheen to it after rain.
Climate

Johannesburg features a Subtropical highland climate (Köppen Cwb). The city enjoys a dry, sunny climate with late afternoon thundershowers in the summer months of October to April.[citation needed] Temperatures in Johannesburg are usually fairly mild due to the city's high altitude, with the average maximum daytime temperature in January of 25.6 °C (78.1 °F), dropping to an average maximum of around 16 °C (61 °F) in June. (Ha ha - try -3c!!) Winter is the sunniest time of the year, with mild days and cool nights, dropping to 4.1 °C (39.4 °F) in June and July. (Umm no - up to -6c this last winter but days are stunning) The temperature occasionally?? drops to below freezing at night, causing frost. Snow is a rare occurrence, with snowfall having been experienced in May 1956, August 1962, June 1964, September 1981 and August 2006 (light). Snow fell again on 27 June 2007, accumulating up to 10 centimetres (3.9 in) in the southern suburbs. Regular cold fronts pass over in winter bringing very cold southerly winds but usually clear skies. The annual average rainfall is 713 millimetres (28.1 in), which is mostly concentrated in the summer months. Infrequent showers occur through the course of the winter months.
Despite the relatively dry climate, Johannesburg has over ten million trees,[21] and it is now the biggest man-made forest in the world, followed by Graskop in Mpumalanga (also in SA) which is the second biggest.[22] Many trees were originally planted in the northern areas of the city at the end of the 19th century, to provide wood for the mining industry. The areas were developed by the Randlord, Hermann Eckstein, a German immigrant, who called the forest estates Sachsenwald. The name was changed to Saxonwold, (up the road from where we live) now the name of a suburb, during World War I. Early (white) residents who moved into the areas Parkhurst, Parktown, Parkview, Westcliff, Saxonwold, Houghton Estate, Illovo, Hyde Park, Dunkeld, Melrose, Inanda, Sandhurst,(all within walking distance of our house) now collectively referred to as the Northern Suburbs, retained many of the original trees and have even expanded their forests with the encouragement of successive city councils. In recent years however, deforestation has occurred to make way for both residential and commercial redevelopment.

And all of the above dear friends, is why I just love living in Jozi! Our street is lined with oaks and acers, some 100 years old.
 
Lived there 8 years and no money on earth would get me back BGRIN

You must've lived in a lousy area then :y7: I'm a born and bred "Durban-ite", right on the coast warmest part of the Indian ocean (warmer than PE Dave) and nothing on earth would convince to me to leave Jozi and return there. One day, when I retire, I'll return to the ocean/coast but more the Garden Route way.

Seeker - the most expensive part of travelling to SA is your airfares - the $ - ZAR is about 8 to 1 in your favour and I've no doubt at all that accommodation would be volunteered all over SA :y2: Besides, I damn good tour guide!
 
The area was not bad at all at the time it was just the whole package of JHB that I could not take, all this status stuff what car you ride where you stay and that in general got to me
 
Geez Dave - who were you socialising with? The former CEO of the biggest mining company in SA lives down the road from us - his house is a bit smaller than ours, nothing fancy at all, has no 'super' security, drives a regular mid-range car, walks his dogs in scruffy ol' clothes - if you saw him on the street you would never believe who he is - that's the difference between class with money and just money.
 
In the mid-80's and 90's I'd agree that Joburgers (particularly certain groups in the Northern suburbs) were obsessed with where you lived, what you drove, where you worked, what schools your kids went to......but I have to say that over-all, that attitude has changed. There are still pockets of this mentality in certain areas but in general, the attitude has changed. There are still some who THINK they're they the bees knees but when you scratch into their background, oh dear, all the nasty little skeletons are there and humility is just around the corner.
 
I had a Jewish friend once who's Father was a diamond trader/dealer (worked for a big diamond company in the USA) and was murdered in South Africa while traveling in his car.

I had another online friend who lived in Johannesburg and worked for Xerox. He often drove into the mining areas to service companies. Not long after the fall of Apartheid, he moved to the UK as he said things were simply too dangerous there. He also said that mailing him things (like CDs) often wouldn't get delivered because the postal system was corrupt.
 
I go into the centre of Johannesburg regularly with large sums of cash - have been doing this for more than 20 years. Have NEVER had an issue at all. Been burgled but was also burgled in California. Had my handbag snatched, had the same thing happen in Brazil and London.

No, don't trust the regular postal system here with anything of remote value - use a courier company.
 
Why doesn't the government do something about the corruption and thefts in the Postal system?

I was sending CDs to him from the USA. It's not as if I could send them by courier all the way from the USA.

For all it's problems financially, the US Postal Service is actually very dependable and things don't go missing unless you packed them poorly and the package broke open in handling. Theft is very rare.
 
Seeker, you're asking the Million $ question. Farside ordered some Triumph kit via the web, one item was a leather jacket. Because custom/import duty had to be paid, the courier company could not deliver it door to door, it had to go via an official post office, tax paid and then the package would be released. Because tax was due, the content of the box was listed on the order/customs form. When we picked up the parcel, it felt light. When we opened it, the package had be rifled through, jacket missing (but the plastic bag was there torn open) and the box resealed. We laid charges of theft at the post-office, took it up with the Public Protector and because we could not pinpoint one specific employee of the post office for the theft, no case.
The government is well aware of this but because SA'fricans are so complacent about everything, we've got used to paying for private mail services such as PostNet or using a courier service. Pathetic isn't it??
 
Why doesn't the government do something about the corruption and thefts in the Postal system?

Because they are too busy seeing what they can get on the sideline to bother about the postal services. Anything where these guys are involved in is corrupt and open to theft. We have fraud cases by the thousands each day and nothing really gets done about it. The corruption and fraud is found at the highest level of government :y7:
 
The area was not bad at all at the time it was just the whole package of JHB that I could not take, all this status stuff what car you ride where you stay and that in general got to me

You could have just bough a Lamborghini and then no problem. Oh wait, i forgot you have squandered your fortune on duds. :y2:
 

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