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Africa - Riding in the bush
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You don't want to mess around in the African bush!
Just a small pride of lion lurking behind him!
Just a small pride of lion lurking behind him!
Yes it's not for sissies that is for sure 
You don't want to mess around in the African bush!
Just a small pride of lion lurking behind him!
Do you think he knows the lions are there and had the photo taken or did the flash show them up and surprised them with the presence?
There's a full travel-blog from the guys on that trip - apparently they did not realise the lion were there until they saw the photo but I can't confirm the truth. But I can't believe that anyone familiar with the African bush would pose so casually with a pride of lion metres away particularly as lion hunt at night mostly. If it were me, and I knew the lion were there, I wouldn't have got out of the car.
I can tell you that Farside's cousin had a very close encounter with black-backed jackals in the Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park - this park's campsites are not fenced. They were sitting around the fire late in the evening and their little 4yr old had fallen asleep in her chair with a corn cob in her hand. Her mom caught a movement in the corner of her eye and when she turned around, a black-backed jackal had snuck right up to the little one and had gently removed the cob from the child's hand - Stacey shouted and everyone jumped around and the jackal took off. That story I can confirm without a doubt.
I can tell you that Farside's cousin had a very close encounter with black-backed jackals in the Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park - this park's campsites are not fenced. They were sitting around the fire late in the evening and their little 4yr old had fallen asleep in her chair with a corn cob in her hand. Her mom caught a movement in the corner of her eye and when she turned around, a black-backed jackal had snuck right up to the little one and had gently removed the cob from the child's hand - Stacey shouted and everyone jumped around and the jackal took off. That story I can confirm without a doubt.
If he saw them and made a lot of noise and possibly acted aggressively would they run or attack?
We have dingos (native dogs) that hunt in packs and can take children, but an aggressive move will usually get them running off.
If taken as pups can they be domesticated? Our dingos can but it's against the law as some say that they can still become a problem even if hand reared, I've known them (dingos) to be good pets.
I don't know - I'm sure they would run away if enough noise was made but I'm not willing to try it I've had a couple of close encounters myself and I can tell you I wasn't 'brave'.
I've had a couple of close encounters myself and I can tell you I wasn't 'brave'.
I've not heard of anyone in SA taming one of these jackals. As far as I know these jackal don't hunt in packs - they're quite solitary unless they have a mate. We do have African Wild Dog here and they are mean, nasty creatures but on the endangered list. Most powerful jaws of all the African predators other than the crocodiles.
Stunning photo Dave!
Stunning photo Dave!
I have never heard of the jackal being domesticated at all
Nice one Dave - interesting. I must admit, I'm really scared of African Wild Dogs though and don't mess with them at all - far more so than the jackal.
Geez - I need more coffee! It's the hyena that has the strongest jaws and that really scare the bejeebers out of me. African Wild Dogs are endangered though.
Hyena pup I snapped in the Kruger National Park in Dec 2009 - so cute until they grow up!
Hyena pup I snapped in the Kruger National Park in Dec 2009 - so cute until they grow up!
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"I did find this The bizarre natural history of the black-backed jackal
In South Africa’s Western Cape Province, bones dating to the later Stone Age that were assumed to be domestic dogs , simply because of their proximity to human settlements. When the DNA was tested, these “dogs” all turned out to be black-backed jackals. That means that humans have had a relationship with Canis mesomelas that could have become like the relationship between humans and the wolves that became dogs.
but further on this
I think the really big question is why black-backed jackals were never turned into true domestic animals. I think the big reason may have to do with their heightened aggression towards their social partners. I don’t think hunter-gatherers would tolerate that sort of aggression in a pet , which is one reason why I think the original wolf populations were far less aggressive towards their social partners than modern wolves are now. Further, both wolves and men had similar ecological niches, which is the basis of Schleidt and Shalter’s theory about the co-evolution of man and dog."
Oh yes the old Schleidt and Shalter's theory, I can quote it word for word.
"I did find this The bizarre natural history of the black-backed jackal
In South Africa’s Western Cape Province, bones dating to the later Stone Age that were assumed to be domestic dogs , simply because of their proximity to human settlements. When the DNA was tested, these “dogs” all turned out to be black-backed jackals. That means that humans have had a relationship with Canis mesomelas that could have become like the relationship between humans and the wolves that became dogs.
but further on this
I think the really big question is why black-backed jackals were never turned into true domestic animals. I think the big reason may have to do with their heightened aggression towards their social partners. I don’t think hunter-gatherers would tolerate that sort of aggression in a pet , which is one reason why I think the original wolf populations were far less aggressive towards their social partners than modern wolves are now. Further, both wolves and men had similar ecological niches, which is the basis of Schleidt and Shalter’s theory about the co-evolution of man and dog."
Oh yes the old Schleidt and Shalter's theory, I can quote it word for word.
Lol I thought it could not be the African Dog, I think anyone that is not scared of the Hyena must be nuts
We have an open zoo in central New South Wales a pack of African Dogs are roaming in an area of about 5 acres, they are separated from people with a moat and banking on the people side. Some years back my wife and I set up our picnic beside the dog area, we can attest to the fact that they are very partial to spaghetti bolognaise. When we opened our packed lunch they came out of the bush and massed across the water from us, it was very funny to see.
Yes they would do that as they are scavenges
