Newbie T140v Owner With A Couple Questions

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ChicagoJoe

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Hello! I'm new to the forum and wanted to introduce myself and see if you might be able to help me with a couple questions I had.

So I bought myself a ’78 T140v a few weeks ago. I’ve never owned a Triumph and it’s been more than thirty years since I last owned a motorcycle. There’s probably a few folks on this board who think I’m biting off more than I can chew by picking a 40 year old British bike as my first foray back into motorcycle ownership (and I wouldn't blame them, but I have wanted a Bonneville ever since I was a kid. Sometimes those first loves are the deepest.

My plan was to spend the rest of the fall just riding it and then make an assessment of what I should do first. Wanting to be a responsible owner, however, I wanted to ask the experts here whether you think that’s a good idea. I don’t want to risk doing any significant damage by riding it if there’s a serious problem somewhere.

Some background on the bike: I’m the third owner, 12,600 miles, frame and engine serials match. Previous owner has owned the bike since the 80s and claims the bike is original, aside from a repaired seat and assorted replacement parts. Photos I’ve looked at online largely confirm. P/O claims he’s ridden it somewhat regularly during the time he’s owned it and it’s never sat without running for any significant time. Always stored indoors. The kill switch is badly oxidized and disconnected and the tacho isn’t working. Otherwise it's running well, starts easily, seems to have good compression. The engine was caked with oil and grime, especially the bottom end and frame, but since I cleaned it up, the only place I get an occasional drip is below the chain lubrication. I’m sure there are other things I probably should be evaluating. If there's anything else you might need, let me know and I'll add it.

Here’s some of the questions I have now-

When I degreased and cleaned around the sump plate, it looked like the P/O had put some kind of liquid-seal around the plate. I was afraid that if I took the plate off I wouldn’t be able to put it back on without it leaking, so when I changed the oil I didn’t take the plate off to clean the filter All I really did was drain and replace what was in the frame.

Occasionally when I back off acceleration, the engine makes a sound I guess I would describe as metal sliding up and down. When I first heard it, it almost sounded like gas sloshing back-and-forth in the tank. Anyone have any idea what it might be? Possibly push rods?

What would you recommend as the first winter projects if my aim was to address what are generally the most pressing needs for t140s? From talking to the P/O, it doesn’t sound like he did a whole lot of work on the engine.

I’m grateful for any and all suggestions and ready to learn at the feet of the experts!
 
Howdy, and welcome to the forum!
Sounds like you will be just fine for now riding the bike locally and taking it relatively easy, until you go through a full maintenance. EVEN IF "it doesn't need it", I believe you should do it, to get to know the bike.

You should remove the sump screen and check it, then re-install with new gaskets ASAP. The most likely reason it has RTV sealer is because a previous owner couldn't be bothered to source the correct gaskets (a VERY easy task).

You should immediately find a copy of "Kim the CD Man" 2-disc Triumph reference set. It will include your parts book, and shop manual.

As far as the sound you are hearing, it could be one of any number of sounds. A full and proper shop maintenance round will have you servicing and adjusting everything that typically corresponds to early warning signs of trouble, so that's my recommendation again (and also answers your last question).

Don't jump ahead of the shop manual sequence, as the factory guys put them in a specific order for a reason - each subsequent task depends on the prior task/adjustment to be completed and allow a proper base or starting point for the next task.

In fact, READING THROUGH the maintenance chapter before actually undertaking the process, will possibly save you the time of installing some body panels, etc. only to have to remove them again.

Keeping your gas tank as near full when storing the bike, and adding some Sta-Bil to the gas, will save you much grief with interior rust & damage.

Get on with it!

P.S. a photo or two would be nice...
 
Thanks for the advice grandpaul. I've seen many references to this Kim the CD man's materials. I will indeed seek them out, and also post photos asap!
 
It was a bit of a stretch, but didn't hurt to ask. Can you record one of your rides, catching the sound, then edit the recording to just that section and upload it to this thread? It may still not help our experts identify it, but it gives them the best chance to help from a distance.
 
You should at least do a "stethoscope" test, using a long screwdriver - touch the tip to various points around the engine and hold your ear to the handle. When you get to any clacketty sounds, there's a possibility.

...of course, these pushrod / rocker engines make clacketty sounds when well tuned!
 
P.S. a photo or two would be nice...

Tried to post a photo, but near as I can figure out, I need to upgrade my membership or post more before I can do this. Need to get busy posting or pony up for the premium membership!

Thanks also for the tip about the 'stethoscope' test. I can't believe how well this trick works to isolate sounds. Although I'm no closer to figuring out the paticular sound I was hearing, since I haven't typically heard it while the bike's idling.

I've already secured copies of the applicable replacement parts catalog and workshop manual for my year/model. Are there any other resources from Kim's CDs or (or other sources) you would consider essential?
 
Tried to post a photo, but near as I can figure out, I need to upgrade my membership or post more before I can do this. Need to get busy posting or pony up for the premium membership!

You can still post up photos directly to this thread by just using the Upload a File Option found in the right bottom of the post box BBEER

There are only the restriction on our actual Media Gallery options
 
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Took me long enough but finally figured out how to load photos!

Thanks everyone again for the great advice. Still haven't figured out my noise issue, but I'm starting to think it's just kind of a noisy bike. Still running excellent.

I went ahead and ordered the gaskets for the sump plate and for good measure added a new top hat filter. They should be arriving soon. Hopefully it's as grandpaul said: the P/O just may not have taken the time to order the right gaskets and instead just used liquid seal. I'm a little worried though...

Did I waste money on the filter? Can they just as easily be cleaned with Kerosene? I figured I might take the plate off and find the screen was all torn up.
 
UPS bike!

I had a good friend that had one, he was an AHRMA roadracing official / tech inspector. Super nice guy, Sure looks like his old bike. His name is Cal, married to Les.

You'll do fine with the new filter.
 
I’ve got a ‘79 and ride it all the time. I had the same sump issue when I bought mine and had to use a torch to get it off. I too ordered a replacement screen but have cleaned it with gas and compressed air since. There are plenty guys who can rebuild your tach but make sure the cable is turning first. Tach cables are lots cheaper than tach rebuilds. As far as noises. Just ride it. If it breaks you’ll find out what they were and worrying just ruins the experience. Wear a 3/4 helmet and enjoy the ignorance is bliss approach.
 
Hi there. thats a great find for a unmolested Bonnie, (can we use that word these days!), and only low miles!. That bike is waiting to go somewhere.
I have a 78 T140v, but red and black, and a black seat, havent seen a brown seat before.
The Tacho issue, check the drive cable, pull it out and clean it a and re lube the inner, be careful when removing the lower end and dont loose the 'spade' connector from the cable to the drive unit.
Good luck with your bike, with such low miles, it probably doenst need a rebuild,(check the compression). Dont forget to oil and grease things after the degrease, a happy bike is an oiled bike..

cheers for now

IKE
 

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