I "was" A Suspension Skeptic

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Turp

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There were a number of reasons I was a skeptic of the "need" to replace the stock suspension; none excusable or enough to prevent eventually replacing it. In hindsight, had I more foreknowledge and experience, I'd had the replacement suspension waiting at the house the day I brought the motorcycle home.

My rider weight countered the oft complaint of over sprung shocks but the damping was non-existent. I didn't have a huge beef with the front forks but there was some significant dive, but not what I thought was real bad. That said though, on the OEM suspension, I was taking some hard hits, bottoming harshly, and the felt like the bike would wallow cornering. Increasing preload o skip on road surface and transmit quite a bit of vibration from the road.

I went with a "next level" OEM replacement that added a progressive sprung front (IKON) and rear shocks with springs rated for me and better damping that's rebound adjustable (IKON 7610).

With new suspension installed and about 100 miles, the improvement is noticeable on the back country roads I wanted to calm.

As far as ride comfort-
If I had "seismograph" like device charting the bumps and surface of the ride on my OEM suspension, the new suspension seems to smooth the peaks and valleys. The harsh or sharper impacts are perceivably smoothed. The road surface feedback is present but tamer.

Handling-
The ride is tighter, more controlled, but as noted above more compliant. I thought the bike handled well before, but needed higher preload to make the handling feel more controlled. The improved damping and more refined front end response prevents the unsettled cornering I sometimes felt. The bike just feels more confidence inspiring in the corners.

There's a lot suspension flavors and levels available to dial in the a better performance. My experience is it's a worthy investment for a better ride experience.
 
It took me several years to be convinced that a change was needed. The factory setup seemed "good enough."
After I changed the fork springs to progressive and the rear shocks to Ikon, the difference was very noticeable over the bumps and through the corners.
Good choice and a good review TUP
 
Terp, you used the magic word: Confidence.

A well sorted suspension gives you exactly that: More confidence to push the bike harder.

/M
 
Suspension Upgrades: Single-handedly the biggest improvement in performance one can do to a motorcycle. The stock shocks for a 2001-2015 Triumph twin cost about $12USD each when bought by the sea container load.

I don't care how many you make... what cheap-arse materials you use... or how cheap your labor cost is. For $12, what can you expect in term of quality?

/M
 
Suspension Upgrades: Single-handedly the biggest improvement in performance one can do to a motorcycle. The stock shocks for a 2001-2015 Triumph twin cost about $12USD each when bought by the sea container load.

I don't care how many you make... what cheap-arse materials you use... or how cheap your labor cost is. For $12, what can you expect in term of quality?

/M
Agree TUP
The good stuff costs money, but it's well worth it and you soon forget the cost in satisfaction and the smile on your face.
 
Suspension Upgrades: Single-handedly the biggest improvement in performance one can do to a motorcycle. The stock shocks for a 2001-2015 Triumph twin cost about $12USD each when bought by the sea container load.

I don't care how many you make... what cheap-arse materials you use... or how cheap your labor cost is. For $12, what can you expect in term of quality?

/M

Well this is also true and we expect them to not put on all top end parts otherwise the cost would be so high they would not sell. With this said most times people can live with the stock installation as it fits there riding abilities. For myself I think what has always put me off doing this upgrade is the cost. Out of all my bikes owned the only one that I really felt I could not live with the handling was my Honda F900 (early 80's) as I know @Rocky has the later version and he has no issue with that one. Myself and a mate purchased the same models back then and we both had the same experience with bad handling.
 
I should add; -for newer bikes-

Tires are the most important assuming the current tires are worn. The rubber on the newest gen of twins are pretty good compared to what we got back in 2001.

/M
 
I should add; -for newer bikes-

Tires are the most important assuming the current tires are worn. The rubber on the newest gen of twins are pretty good compared to what we got back in 2001.

/M

Well this is normally an upgrade I do as you have to replace them at some point so why not just spend that bit extra on something better.
 
I'll throw in my unsolicited 2 cents' worth on tires: as a newbie, I really don't have much to compare bad/good tires or suspensions with.

But on the advice of TT forum members, when my little 2009 Honda CRF 230M got a nail in the rear tire, I had the moto shop replace both tires (they were OEM 7-year-old tires anyway). I asked for something that would give me the option of riding down a fire road or gravel trail without feeling as though I were going to fall over. The moto guy is a huge off-roader fellow, and he threw some Shinko blahdeblahblahs on my little bike.

That smile-on-the-face is a real thing! The first time I cautiously ventured onto a little gravel road with the new tires, I was grinning ear to ear after a minute. Greatest decision ever! Looking to do the same with the Street Twin now. I'm not planning on hitting the Trans America Trail (TAT), but I just want to be able to turn into a gravel parking lot without worrying too much.

I did ask a riding buddy if he thought he could ride my ST with street tires successfully on a relatively tame dirt/gravel road for several miles. He said he was pretty confident that he could do it. But he *did* just ride the TAT, solo. LOL
 
Not to stray too far off-topic, but wheel alignment is a critical component to getting a bike to handle well. The rear wheel in particular! Especially on the Hinckley Triumph twins. Their OEM axle adjusters alignment marks are crude and often way off. I'll post something on how I like to align the wheel(s).

/M
 
Not to stray too far off-topic, but wheel alignment is a critical component to getting a bike to handle well. The rear wheel in particular! Especially on the Hinckley Triumph twins. Their OEM axle adjusters alignment marks are crude and often way off. I'll post something on how I like to align the wheel(s).

/M

Now this is something that is useful to know and most times we would not even think about stuff like this for a bike.
 
I should add; -for newer bikes-

Tires are the most important assuming the current tires are worn. The rubber on the newest gen of twins are pretty good compared to what we got back in 2001.

/M
Since you mention tires. Since starting this thread, I clocked about 4K miles which brought me to my 6K service which I did at the dealer since I'm still in the warranty period. In addition to the service and a ECU reprogram, I replaced the tires. They were pretty worn. I usually would have done extensive homework and research on tire options first. However, this time did something uncharacteristic; I said install them. After the service rep showed the tire and price, their price was competitive and install was very reasonable. The tires, Metzler Sportec Klassik, so far with a few hundred miles, feel really good.

I kind of want to avoid the "new stuff" euphoria, so I'll just leave it with, I like the new shocks and tires.
 
Since Feb, I put another 4K+mi. and now have over 8K on the suspension and 4Kmi. on the tires. Over 2,500 miles on 3 different trips; one being 1,600 miles. With the bike quite loaded with gear, I rode some nice twisties on the Snake hwy421, Dragon hwy129, and Back of the Dragon hwy16. The tires and suspension rode great.
 

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