Dave, that is awesome, a real accomplishment.
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My Dad got me into the Masons....
Blue Lodge: Lodge of the Craft #343 F&AM
Scottish Rite - Valley of New Castle Consistory
Tall Cedars, Lawrence Caravan, and League of Honor
I'm not active anymore (although I do pay my dues) mostly because I don't want to be a hypocrite since I became an Atheist.
Blue Lodge: Lodge of the Craft #343 F&AM
Scottish Rite - Valley of New Castle Consistory
Tall Cedars, Lawrence Caravan, and League of Honor
I'm not active anymore (although I do pay my dues) mostly because I don't want to be a hypocrite since I became an Atheist.
Are you a 33rd degree Dave?
I agree that the 'conspiracy' theories about the Masons are rubbish. Both my brothers were Masons and when my brothers both died, the Masons were incredible in helping their families. Far more so than the churches they both belonged to. PM x 3 - 
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But I do believe the Illuminati existed although not the evil group they have been made out to be by the Vatican in particular.
Roswell - I don't know. I don't think we're alone and I've seen some strange stuff but I've not seen a ship landing. Kecksburg is a new one for me so I'll have some weekend reading to do.
!But I do believe the Illuminati existed although not the evil group they have been made out to be by the Vatican in particular.
Roswell - I don't know. I don't think we're alone and I've seen some strange stuff but I've not seen a ship landing. Kecksburg is a new one for me so I'll have some weekend reading to do.
AJ I did a Google on Keckesburg UFO incident and there is quite a bit to keep me busy for some time :y114:
Geoff587
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There was an interesting programme on the History Channel about the Knights Templar from the Crusades, who were wiped out by the French King at the time to take their amassed treasures. They never found the monies and to cut a long story short they were trying to do a connection between the Free Masons emerged from the survivors from the Knights Templar.
I saw that and I read a book on it.
Simmer
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Yeah three times the Master of Mission Lodge #158 in Cashmere WA. The members were getting to old to make it up the stairs and membership dropped. We eventually closed the lodge and combined with Riverside Lodge in Wenatchee WA, where I am a life member. I purchased the building and my studio is now in it. I never went further than blue lodge, but love the many people that I have met. I like the fact that masons do so much for people and don't care if others know about it. The Shriner's Hospital is one great example. I had an employee who had a child who was crippled. Although he was not a mason, (membership is not required), I contacted a local shrine member and that child was in the shrine hospital within days and helped. I have not been active for a few years, but will have to get a new suit and start attending again.
Dave
Dave
Another conspiracy, but probably only known of in Australia is to do with the disappearance of our Prime Minister, Harold Holt in 1967. Some had him down as a spy for China, and they took him away in a submarine, others say the CIA killed him, etc etc.
http://www.harold-holt.net/
http://www.harold-holt.net/
Interesting reading.
Not to hijack the thread, (Carl, you guys keep on going with the JFK theories
) but Dave, i'm with ya on the UFO stuff. i've been so intrigued with all that since i was a kid. And it really hit home when i saw one. Not just the typical sighting, but i REALLY saw something unreal in the desert when i was about 20, and no, i didn't take drugs of any kind. Trust me, there is something going on. After i saw that i became a believer that there is something that can't be explained by any of the theories we've heard a million times...swamp gas, lights on the side of a hill, ball lightning, reflections, secret military craft, etc etc. Either someone has got to come up with a new theory or what i saw was something out of this world. I'm also talking about less than a 1/4 mile away and close to the ground.
) but Dave, i'm with ya on the UFO stuff. i've been so intrigued with all that since i was a kid. And it really hit home when i saw one. Not just the typical sighting, but i REALLY saw something unreal in the desert when i was about 20, and no, i didn't take drugs of any kind. Trust me, there is something going on. After i saw that i became a believer that there is something that can't be explained by any of the theories we've heard a million times...swamp gas, lights on the side of a hill, ball lightning, reflections, secret military craft, etc etc. Either someone has got to come up with a new theory or what i saw was something out of this world. I'm also talking about less than a 1/4 mile away and close to the ground.[quote author=dazco link=topic=6889.msg37778#msg37778 date=1251166511]
Not to hijack the thread, (Carl, you guys keep on going with the JFK theories) but Dave, i'm with ya on the UFO stuff. i've been so intrigued with all that since i was a kid. And it really hit home when i saw one. Not just the typical sighting, but i REALLY saw something unreal in the desert when i was about 20, and no, i didn't take drugs of any kind. Trust me, there is something going on. After i saw that i became a believer that there is something that can't be explained by any of the theories we've heard a million times...swamp gas, lights on the side of a hill, ball lightning, reflections, secret military craft, etc etc. Either someone has got to come up with a new theory or what i saw was something out of this world. I'm also talking about less than a 1/4 mile away and close to the ground.
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I'm with you (dazco) on this one. It was Easter long weekend, 1972 when from the edge of a headland I spotted my UFO. No alcohol or drugs involved.
Not to hijack the thread, (Carl, you guys keep on going with the JFK theories
) but Dave, i'm with ya on the UFO stuff. i've been so intrigued with all that since i was a kid. And it really hit home when i saw one. Not just the typical sighting, but i REALLY saw something unreal in the desert when i was about 20, and no, i didn't take drugs of any kind. Trust me, there is something going on. After i saw that i became a believer that there is something that can't be explained by any of the theories we've heard a million times...swamp gas, lights on the side of a hill, ball lightning, reflections, secret military craft, etc etc. Either someone has got to come up with a new theory or what i saw was something out of this world. I'm also talking about less than a 1/4 mile away and close to the ground.[/quote]
I'm with you (dazco) on this one. It was Easter long weekend, 1972 when from the edge of a headland I spotted my UFO. No alcohol or drugs involved.
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I'm with you (dazco) on this one. It was Easter long weekend, 1972 when from the edge of a headland I spotted my UFO. No alcohol or drugs involved.
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that was about the same year as i saw mine ! In fact i think it was 72.
I'm with you (dazco) on this one. It was Easter long weekend, 1972 when from the edge of a headland I spotted my UFO. No alcohol or drugs involved.
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that was about the same year as i saw mine ! In fact i think it was 72.
Take a look into the night sky and what you see is only a fraction of what is out there. So how can we be so arrogant to think that we are the only entirety in this wast universe. So yes I am a believer and I love reading about it. The problem is you need to sift through so much junk to find the good stuff
I've been involved in the UFO question since the early 1960s when my Brother and I joined NICAP (National Investigative Committee on Areal Phenomena). It was an actual US government organization which collected and disseminated UFO reports. They'd send us a Monthly newsletter compilation of all UFO reports and follow-ups on prior ones.
Only in the last decade or so has it come out that this organization was part of the government's plan to cover-up their existence while collecting actual data on reports.
NICAP is no longer a government organization.
I also have a copy of Project Blue Book. This was the US Air Force collection of data on UFOs.
Only in the last decade or so has it come out that this organization was part of the government's plan to cover-up their existence while collecting actual data on reports.
NICAP is no longer a government organization.
I also have a copy of Project Blue Book. This was the US Air Force collection of data on UFOs.
AJ now that is cool I would have loved to be involved with something like that :y115:
In addition to the Kecksburg , one of the more documented incidents with physical evidence is UFO Landing at Socorro, New Mexico
That webpage gives a little description, but doesn't go into much detail. Google for more in depth stuff on it...very interesting!
I have never seen a UFO personally, but I'd love to since I've been interested in the topic for over 40 years.
That webpage gives a little description, but doesn't go into much detail. Google for more in depth stuff on it...very interesting!
I have never seen a UFO personally, but I'd love to since I've been interested in the topic for over 40 years.
In 1952, thousands of people, including extremely credible people such as Barry Goldwater (Presidential candidate) witnessed them:
UFOs - Are we alone? FOX 5 Washington DC UFO Story
Ronald Reagan also said he saw a UFO while Governor of California. He later mentioned UFOs in several speeches. He practically comes right out and says they exist in those speeches.
For those really interested in UFOs, I highly recommend you get a copy of the book "The Day After Roswell" by Colonel Phillip Corso, Ret. Before he died, he wanted to go on record about his involvement in utilizing retro-engineering on bits and pieces of the Roswell UFOs recovered by the US Military. He claims quite convincingly that they "seeded" technology in the private sector which resulted in such things as Fibre-Optics, Night Vision, and Transistors.
UFOs - Are we alone? FOX 5 Washington DC UFO Story
Ronald Reagan also said he saw a UFO while Governor of California. He later mentioned UFOs in several speeches. He practically comes right out and says they exist in those speeches.
For those really interested in UFOs, I highly recommend you get a copy of the book "The Day After Roswell" by Colonel Phillip Corso, Ret. Before he died, he wanted to go on record about his involvement in utilizing retro-engineering on bits and pieces of the Roswell UFOs recovered by the US Military. He claims quite convincingly that they "seeded" technology in the private sector which resulted in such things as Fibre-Optics, Night Vision, and Transistors.
You wonder about this issue as some of the account come from very credible people. I think they may have more to lose than gain coming out with this stuff
