Clutch Pull Tough On The Left Hand

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Magno

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It's now got to thepoint that my left fingers are suffering with the constant pull on a tough clutch lever whilst riding around London.
Having renovated the clutch and fitted new springs I am looking for a way to ease the pressure on the lever. I've heard that it's possible to get a clutch pull adaptor that may help. I'd be grateful to hear from anyone who has experience of sorting out this problem.
The bike's a T140v and is running very well otherwise.

Happy riding

Magno
 
You can buy a clutch pull shoftner ( i cant remember what its called now ! ) that fits inbetween the cable and lever we used to use them a lot on dirt bikes at one time , its like a small triangle box with an arm in it witch acts as a canilever with the lever end cable clipped in at the top and the clutch end clipped in lower down creating leverage on the cable making the pull softer .
 
Many thanks Shanered6

That looks better than the Outlaw version I tracked down. I'll have to find out if the cables will suit a T140v

Cheers

Magno
 
Reading other internet forums about Meriden Triumphs, I'm really surprised at the poor information so far in this thread. :(

Unless you have some sort of medical problem with your left hand, those gadgets are - at best - a solution in search of a problem; at worst, snake oil in search of a sucker.

I spent years in London either as a dispatch rider or commuting on motorcycles - apart from none of the listed Japanese manufacturers make bikes that can't be used all-day every day in London by normal human beings, Triumph sold thirty-odd thousand twins a year around the world for years, which would've been impossible if they also couldn't be used in cities like London all-day every day by normal human beings.

Having renovated the clutch and fitted new springs
That's the obvious starting point. Which springs? Where did you buy 'em?

You haven't helped yourself by failing to state which year "T140V" - Meriden made 'em for five years. However, because I can be bothered to look beyond half-arsed gadgets, I looked in '73 and '78 parts books and found the same clutch spring part number listed - 57-4644. Then, although I'm not particularly interested in T140's, even I knew there are at least two different actual springs sold under that part number, and a few minutes searching another Britbike forum turned up the details - both have the same free length but different fitted lengths, which results in one being 53 lb./in. and the other being 76 lb./in. So, as I say, where'd you buy the new springs from, and which ones have you fitted?

Aside from the springs themselves, even I know there are several other potential problem areas, mostly with current parts 'quality'. :( Are the "Pressure nuts" set correctly on the bolts? Accepted wisdom is the ends of the bolts should not protrude beyond the nuts. What make of cable are you using? When it was off the bike, did you check that the inner drops through the outer under its own weight when the cable's held clear of the ground? Is the cable the longer 'US-market' length, even if your bike has 'low' handlebars? With low 'bars, route the cable around the front of the frame, the cable then keeps a desirable large-radius bend even when the steering's turned fully to the left. Did you check the handlebar lever pivot for wear-related friction, especially under strain when it's compressing the clutch springs? Does the lever measure 7/8" between the pivot centre and the cable nipple centre? That's the correct measurement for any pre-'79 Triumph twin, greater requires (a little) additional lever effort and doesn't do anything for the clutch actuation mechanism in the gearbox cover. Does the lever mounting also measure 7/8" between the pivot centre and the cable inner where the latter passes into the adjuster, when the lever's up against the mounting?
 
Ahoy Rudi,

Very interesting about the two different strengths of spring. I recently fitted new ones and assume they may be of the stronger type.
The bike is a 1976 model. I did check most of what you have suggested already and have decided on a 7 plate clutch with T120 springs. Not sure what their lbs per sq inch is but I'm assured they're lighter than the Bonnie springs but strong enough for a 7 plate clutch.
Handlebar lever and cable are fine.

Many thanks for your suggestions.

Magno
 
have decided on a 7 plate clutch with T120 springs.
Good choice. You know to check for the adjuster screw in the pressure plate hitting the inside of the adjuster plug in the chaincase?

Not sure what their lbs per sq inch is
Depends on the spring again. Assuming 57-1830 from the last 650's, the same longer fitted length as the 750 springs gives 43 lb./in., the same shorter gives 58 lb./in. (so about the same as 750 springs with longer fitted length).

In the US there are also pattern springs made by both Barnett and Emgo, not sure if they're available in the UK; pressures not very different from 'standard'(?) springs. Watch out for pattern springs by Precision Machine, much higher pressures than any of the others. :(

In each case, the "longer fitted length" is with the bolt ends flush with the bottom of the Pressure Nut slots; "shorter fitted length" is with the bolt ends flush with the top of the Nut domes.

On that basis, before buying the 7-plate kit, try loosening the Nuts with the existing 750 springs 'til the bolt ends flush with the bottom of the Nut slots?
 
OK amigo,

Good advice. I do know about the adjuster screw on the rod so I'll double check that.
I reckon some careful adjustment of the 3 pressure springs and a 7 plate clutch should go a long well to softening the clutch pull.
I hope so!

Many thanks

Magno
 

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