Noise Drives Pennsylvania Restaurant to Ban Kids Under 6

[The Seeker]

PITTSBURGH, PA - A restaurant in western Pennsylvania says it’s no longer allowing children under age 6. McDain’s Restaurant and Golf Center in Monroeville says the new policy will take effect July 16.
Restaurant owner Mike Vuick said there’s “nothing wrong with babies, but the fact is you can’t control their volume.†He said all that screaming and crying disturbs many of his customers.


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Stephanie Kelley, of Trafford, has been a weekly customer of McDain’s Restaurant and Golf Center. Not any more.
“I can’t believe this. I am offended. This is just an ignorant policy,†Kelley told Team 4 investigator Jim Parsons.In an email sent to loyal McDain’s customers, owner Mike Vuick wrote, “Beginning July 16, 2011, McDain’s Restaurant will no longer admit children under six years of age. We feel that McDain’s is not a place for young children. Their volume can’t be controlled and many, many times, they have distured other customers.â€
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[DaveM]

What that just does it he can forget about me ever eating there :y14: ........ BUt then again I suppose that also applies to 100% of the restaurants in the USA :y24::y24:

I got to agree with him though nothing worse than going out for a quite time and having a huge noise that you cannot control. The funny thing a similar thing happened to me on Friday afternoon. Every day at around 16:30 I pop into a coffee shop have a cup wile I am waiting to play pick-up after work at 17:15. On Friday there were a bunch of young kids having something in the section I normally sit. They were so load I took my coffee and had to go and sit in another section of the shop until they left.

Ah I see it is time for me to go and have my cuppa now

 

[Rocky]

I can quite understand the new policy.
I see uncontrolled brats disturbing public places all the time and the so-called "parents" completely ignoring them.
Babies are another matter, but the parents need to consider the other patrons.
I see parents bringing infants into restaurants where they quite often proceed to scream their lungs out.
The fault is not with the baby but with the parents.
As my dearly departed father used to say, "There's nuthin' stupider than people."
Dad was not well educated, but he was pretty wise.

 

[CarlS]

Rocky you are spot on. All four of my children acted up in a restaurant - one time each. They never did it again. I do not blame the restaurant at all for this policy. Parents need to learn discipline and teach their kinds to respect others - and others' property. Sadly both are sorely lacking today.

 

[The Seeker]

I saw the owner interviewed and he said that emails he's gotten are about 11-1 in favor of his new policy.

What was the old saying???......Children are to be seen but not heard?

The ONLY problem is that there ARE some Parents who have taught their children how to act and have well behaved children. Too bad they have to suffer for the bad eggs out there.

 

[CarlS]

I saw the owner interviewed and he said that emails he's gotten are about 11-1 in favor of his new policy.

What was the old saying???......Children are to be seen but not heard?

The ONLY problem is that there ARE some Parents who have taught their children how to act and have well behaved children. Too bad they have to suffer for the bad eggs out there.

I am beginning to think those parents are in the distinct minority.

 

[Rocky]

It only takes a few bad ones to spoil things for the rest of us.

 

[CarlS]

And that applies to most any endeavor.

 

[Gromit]

I totally agree with the restaurant owner - if you can't control your kids OR if you haven't taught them how to behave in public, STAY AT HOME. There are number of restaurants in Joburg that do not allow kids of a certain age and loads of small or upmarket hotels that do not allow children under the age of 13 years! And I do agree - when you're paying the price some of them charge, you don't want screaming kids running amock all over the show. Nothing worse than going to a game lodge where quiet is really needed and you've got a bunch of kids making a racket chasing away the game! Kinda ruins the photo opportunites!

 

[Rocky]

I agree with Gromit. Letting kids run free is not doing them any favours. They need to learn the word "no" at an early age.
I too have stayed at hotels and motels where kids have been allowed to run the halls screaming and yelling and pounding on walls in their room.
I'm dismayed that how thoughtless and inconsiderate some people are these days.
I don't know how the parents can stand it. I guess they just tune it out.

 

[otherwise]

Yeah, it's his business therefore his call as to who he lets in, well morally so, not sure about your laws on discrimination.

When it comes to teaching your kids ... a mate of mine only lives two streets away last week stopped 4 kids aged about 10 from taking white river stones from his garden and throwing them at the house across the road. The next thing the police arrive and question him for hurting the kids. If he didn't show the stones in the yard of the house across the road it could have been serious. His daughter and son in law are both police officers working in close by stations, so he followed it up unofficially, when the investigating officer went to the kids house the answer was "Well I can't control them, they learn these things at school".

 

[CarlS]

In that case the kids need to be taken away and put in a boot camp!

 

[Gromit]

I think all such places, hotels, restaurants etc have the "Right of Admission Reserved" law on their side. Well at least here in SA they do. If a pub owner has the right to make unruly drunks leave the establishment, then ergo a restaurant owner can do the same. I was on a flight to London (9 hours) from SA and had a family in the row in front of me - the 2 kids screamed and had temper tantrums from the minute they boarded because they did not want to sit down and strap in. My limit was 2 hours by which time they were allowed to release the seat belts but they were in full swing and showing no signs of letting up. The most the parents did was beg "please sweetie, sshh now, please stop this, don't cry" - my foot! I called the airsteward and gave them a choice - either they do something about these kids or I would and they wouldn't like my remedy. Failing that, land the plane at the next available airport and get them off the plane or move me and my family. And refund me my entire fare as per their fine-print on the booking/payment agreement. We were moved to business class and the offending parents were told get their kids under control NOW or face a fine equivallent to my total airfares.
Kids need boundaries and they need to know exactly where that boundry line is or face the consequences.

 

[DaveM]

Good going Gromit I did not think there would be much you could do on a flight

 

[Gromit]

Good going Gromit I did not think there would be much you could do on a flight

Dave, being in the business that I am, I DO actually read the fine print (boring old bat I know) but you should read the fine print when you agree to terms and conditions when booking and paying for a flight - it's quite surprising what the paying passenger can do. OFF TOPIC but when Farside's flew to SA via Switzerland, they were bumped off the connecting flight from Switzerland to SA even though they were "in transit" passengers and their luggage was booked all the way through to Joburg. They contacted me from the airport in Switzerland and I got onto SwissAir here in SA - phoned the SwissAir check in counter at the Swiss Airport, got them onto the flight and upgraded to first class round trip. You've just gotta read the fine print! On the day they arrived in Joburg, a HUGE bouquet of flowers and Swiss choccies were waiting for them as an apology. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS AS A CONSUMER! And yes, I'm a grumpy old duck that's why they call me "Grumpy Gromit"!

 

[DaveM]

I think most of us could just not be bothered to take the time to read it and I know we should

 

[CarlS]

I think all such places, hotels, restaurants etc have the "Right of Admission Reserved" law on their side. Well at least here in SA they do. If a pub owner has the right to make unruly drunks leave the establishment, then ergo a restaurant owner can do the same. I was on a flight to London (9 hours) from SA and had a family in the row in front of me - the 2 kids screamed and had temper tantrums from the minute they boarded because they did not want to sit down and strap in. My limit was 2 hours by which time they were allowed to release the seat belts but they were in full swing and showing no signs of letting up. The most the parents did was beg "please sweetie, sshh now, please stop this, don't cry" - my foot! I called the airsteward and gave them a choice - either they do something about these kids or I would and they wouldn't like my remedy. Failing that, land the plane at the next available airport and get them off the plane or move me and my family. And refund me my entire fare as per their fine-print on the booking/payment agreement. We were moved to business class and the offending parents were told get their kids under control NOW or face a fine equivallent to my total airfares.

Kids need boundaries and they need to know exactly where that boundry line is or face the consequences.

Good for you! I like your style.

 

[hemibee]

I think he may have banned the wrong group, ban the idiot parents. I can not remember either of my sons acting up in a restaurant. I believe they knew what would happen to them if they did. Some folks may have thought I was the southern end of a north bound mule but I demanded both of them acted as young gentlemen in public. There are places in public where letting your hair down and having a good time is allowed within reason and most restaurants aren't that place.


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