Well looks like I have another new project on my hands :tongue: I have just been approached to do a web site for a Church. My biggest challenge here is the language or lack of it as they want it in Afrikaans 
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Does this count as a donation to the church then? I don't know about your tax laws in SA, but that would be a tax deduction in the USA.
Please give us a taste of it when you get some of the coding done...I'd like to see something in Afrikaans.
Please give us a taste of it when you get some of the coding done...I'd like to see something in Afrikaans.
Hmmmmm???
Saying that just gave me an idea? I wonder if I could take a tax deduction for money donated to TriumphTalk? I could say it's a religion...and I'd be at least 75% truthful...maybe even more!
Saying that just gave me an idea? I wonder if I could take a tax deduction for money donated to TriumphTalk? I could say it's a religion...and I'd be at least 75% truthful...maybe even more!
Lol never thought about it being a tax deduction until now, I really would not know actually how it works this side with something like this. Once I have something up I will post a link to get a bit of feedback on it :y18:
AJ, I think you are on to something here. I like that idea!
Dave, if the church is paying you to do this and you provide them with an invoice, then it's not tax deductable for you but it is a deduction for the church. If you do it as a 'donation' then it is deductable for you up to a certain amount.
En Dave, sies vir jou dat jy nie Afrikaans vlot kan praat of skryf nie. Het jy nie 'n behoorlike matriek sertifikaat geskryf nie? Onthou, toe ek and jy matriek geskryf het, was Afrikaans 'n verpligte vak as 'n tweede taal as jy na 'n Engelse skool toe gegaan het. :happy:
En Dave, sies vir jou dat jy nie Afrikaans vlot kan praat of skryf nie. Het jy nie 'n behoorlike matriek sertifikaat geskryf nie? Onthou, toe ek and jy matriek geskryf het, was Afrikaans 'n verpligte vak as 'n tweede taal as jy na 'n Engelse skool toe gegaan het. :happy:
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En Dave, sies vir jou dat jy nie Afrikaans vlot kan praat of skryf nie. Het jy nie 'n behoorlike matriek sertifikaat geskryf nie? Onthou, toe ek and jy matriek geskryf het, was Afrikaans 'n verpligte vak as 'n tweede taal as jy na 'n Engelse skook toe gegaan het. :happy:
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Gromit.... I think you should translate this for our state-side and other non afrikaans speaking folk (me included....although i did get the gist....)
En Dave, sies vir jou dat jy nie Afrikaans vlot kan praat of skryf nie. Het jy nie 'n behoorlike matriek sertifikaat geskryf nie? Onthou, toe ek and jy matriek geskryf het, was Afrikaans 'n verpligte vak as 'n tweede taal as jy na 'n Engelse skook toe gegaan het. :happy:
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Gromit.... I think you should translate this for our state-side and other non afrikaans speaking folk (me included....although i did get the gist....)
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Gromit.... I think you should translate this for our state-side and other non afrikaans speaking folk (me included....although i did get the gist....)
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Here you go Silli and compadres over the water................. "matric" is the equivallent of 12th grade or VI Form as we used to call it.
And Dave, shame on you that you cannot speak fluent Afrikaans. Did you not write a decent matric? Remember, when you and I wrote matric Afrikaans was a compulsory subject as a second language if you went to an English school.
Gromit.... I think you should translate this for our state-side and other non afrikaans speaking folk (me included....although i did get the gist....)
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Here you go Silli and compadres over the water................. "matric" is the equivallent of 12th grade or VI Form as we used to call it.
And Dave, shame on you that you cannot speak fluent Afrikaans. Did you not write a decent matric? Remember, when you and I wrote matric Afrikaans was a compulsory subject as a second language if you went to an English school.
Oh and if you failed Afrikaans, you failed the entire year even if you got 100% in EVERY other subject. Ditto English. :angry:
Huh 
h: What was that furrin language :ya2:
The only languages I speak are English and profane :y114:
h: What was that furrin language :ya2:The only languages I speak are English and profane :y114:
[quote author=Gromit link=topic=11231.msg53729#msg53729 date=1289903405]
En Dave, sies vir jou dat jy nie Afrikaans vlot kan praat of skryf nie. Het jy nie 'n behoorlike matriek sertifikaat geskryf nie? Onthou, toe ek and jy matriek geskryf het, was Afrikaans 'n verpligte vak as 'n tweede taal as jy na 'n Engelse skool toe gegaan het. :happy:
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I will have to go and look at Google translate for this :silent: :ya2: Ah I see you did a translate for Silli
I am just doing it for them as a donation I suppose you can call it. Don't know when I am going to get around to even starting it the way things are going at work right now :tongue:
En Dave, sies vir jou dat jy nie Afrikaans vlot kan praat of skryf nie. Het jy nie 'n behoorlike matriek sertifikaat geskryf nie? Onthou, toe ek and jy matriek geskryf het, was Afrikaans 'n verpligte vak as 'n tweede taal as jy na 'n Engelse skool toe gegaan het. :happy:
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I will have to go and look at Google translate for this :silent: :ya2: Ah I see you did a translate for Silli
I am just doing it for them as a donation I suppose you can call it. Don't know when I am going to get around to even starting it the way things are going at work right now :tongue:
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Oh and if you failed Afrikaans, you failed the entire year even if you got 100% in EVERY other subject. Ditto English. :angry:
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A South African friend of mine (industrial chemist) was changing jobs in Johannesburg a few years before he came to Australia. When asked if he was bi-lingual at the interview he had to think fast and then said yes. What he didn't tell them was he spoke English and Polish. On the rare occasion that people spoke to him in Afrikaans he'd just mumble in English, and look busy.
Oh and if you failed Afrikaans, you failed the entire year even if you got 100% in EVERY other subject. Ditto English. :angry:
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A South African friend of mine (industrial chemist) was changing jobs in Johannesburg a few years before he came to Australia. When asked if he was bi-lingual at the interview he had to think fast and then said yes. What he didn't tell them was he spoke English and Polish. On the rare occasion that people spoke to him in Afrikaans he'd just mumble in English, and look busy.
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I will have to go and look at Google translate for this :silent: :ya2: Ah I see you did a translate for Silli
I am just doing it for them as a donation I suppose you can call it. Don't know when I am going to get around to even starting it the way things are going at work right now :tongue:
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Dave, that is quite admirable of you. I could get the gist of what Gromit wrote from my limited knowledge of German and Dutch. But I surely could not speak it or write it!
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A South African friend of mine (industrial chemist) was changing jobs in Johannesburg a few years before he came to Australia. When asked if he was bi-lingual at the interview he had to think fast and then said yes. What he didn't tell them was he spoke English and Polish. On the rare occasion that people spoke to him in Afrikaans he'd just mumble in English, and look busy.
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Kevin, I have used that little ruse myself. Except I would mutter in Muskogee so that it did not sound like English. :y114:
I will have to go and look at Google translate for this :silent: :ya2: Ah I see you did a translate for Silli
I am just doing it for them as a donation I suppose you can call it. Don't know when I am going to get around to even starting it the way things are going at work right now :tongue:
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Dave, that is quite admirable of you. I could get the gist of what Gromit wrote from my limited knowledge of German and Dutch. But I surely could not speak it or write it!
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A South African friend of mine (industrial chemist) was changing jobs in Johannesburg a few years before he came to Australia. When asked if he was bi-lingual at the interview he had to think fast and then said yes. What he didn't tell them was he spoke English and Polish. On the rare occasion that people spoke to him in Afrikaans he'd just mumble in English, and look busy.
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Kevin, I have used that little ruse myself. Except I would mutter in Muskogee so that it did not sound like English. :y114:
Afrikaans is a very gutteral language - is closer to Flemish than 'new' Dutch. It's origin is in the old 'high' Dutch which is no longer spoken. It's a rather bastard language in it's current form today.
I don't like speaking it - to me it just sounds like an awful disease of the throat. My son has elected to do Afrikaans at school as a 2nd official language because it's actually easier to learn to speak, read & write than Zulu, Tswana, Sotho or Xhosa!
Dave, if you need any help with translation, e-mail me the text and I'll get it translated for you by a real pro at no cost :happy:
I don't like speaking it - to me it just sounds like an awful disease of the throat. My son has elected to do Afrikaans at school as a 2nd official language because it's actually easier to learn to speak, read & write than Zulu, Tswana, Sotho or Xhosa!
Dave, if you need any help with translation, e-mail me the text and I'll get it translated for you by a real pro at no cost :happy:
[quote author=CarlS link=topic=11231.msg53771#msg53771 date=1289996851]Kevin, I have used that little ruse myself. Except I would mutter in Muskogee so that it did not sound like English. :y114:
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That wouldn't work in Australia as we all speak Muskogean, although some battle a little with the Eastern Muskogean, Western Muskogean just flows naturally.
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(joking aside, never heard of Muskogee, had to look that one up)
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That wouldn't work in Australia as we all speak Muskogean, although some battle a little with the Eastern Muskogean, Western Muskogean just flows naturally.
.:y114:
(joking aside, never heard of Muskogee, had to look that one up)
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Dave, if you need any help with translation, e-mail me the text and I'll get it translated for you by a real pro at no cost :happy:
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Ah thanks will do what I am thinking of doing is the whole thing in English and then look at translating it. Mean twice the work but may just be faster all round :y114:
Dave, if you need any help with translation, e-mail me the text and I'll get it translated for you by a real pro at no cost :happy:
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Ah thanks will do what I am thinking of doing is the whole thing in English and then look at translating it. Mean twice the work but may just be faster all round :y114:
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That wouldn't work in Australia as we all speak Muskogean, although some battle a little with the Eastern Muskogean, Western Muskogean just flows naturally.
.:y114:
(joking aside, never heard of Muskogee, had to look that one up)
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:y24: :y24: :y115: I speak Eastern Muskogee and its variant, Cow Creek, which is the language of the Seminole Tribe of Florida. I am not Seminole; I am of Muskogee Creek descendancy. Mae Lyne and were married in a traditional Muskogee ceremony spoken in the Eastern dialect. One of my distant cousins, who is a tribal elder and a preacher, performed the ceremony. Translation was provided for our guests. :ya2:
That wouldn't work in Australia as we all speak Muskogean, although some battle a little with the Eastern Muskogean, Western Muskogean just flows naturally.
.:y114:
(joking aside, never heard of Muskogee, had to look that one up)
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:y24: :y24: :y115: I speak Eastern Muskogee and its variant, Cow Creek, which is the language of the Seminole Tribe of Florida. I am not Seminole; I am of Muskogee Creek descendancy. Mae Lyne and were married in a traditional Muskogee ceremony spoken in the Eastern dialect. One of my distant cousins, who is a tribal elder and a preacher, performed the ceremony. Translation was provided for our guests. :ya2:
Sorry to Dave for getting away from his original subject in this thread, but ...
Carl, after reading your last post I was interested to listen to your language so I went to You tube and found a number of clips. From the English translations it looks like your people have a lot in common with Australian Aboriginal people regarding removal from homelands, all very sad.
Carl, after reading your last post I was interested to listen to your language so I went to You tube and found a number of clips. From the English translations it looks like your people have a lot in common with Australian Aboriginal people regarding removal from homelands, all very sad.
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Sorry to Dave for getting away from his original subject in this thread, but ...
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Not a problem at all :y18:
Ok here is my first draft I sent off to them but I still have plenty of work to do on it still :y114:
Retief Kerk
Sorry to Dave for getting away from his original subject in this thread, but ...
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Not a problem at all :y18:
Ok here is my first draft I sent off to them but I still have plenty of work to do on it still :y114:
Retief Kerk
[quote author=otherwise link=topic=11231.msg53873#msg53873 date=1290196699]
Sorry to Dave for getting away from his original subject in this thread, but ...
Carl, after reading your last post I was interested to listen to your language so I went to You tube and found a number of clips. From the English translations it looks like your people have a lot in common with Australian Aboriginal people regarding removal from homelands, all very sad.
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In the South eastern US, there were five tribes, really four tribes and a confederacy of tribes. These five tribes were labeled as the Five Civilized Tribes by the whites: Creek (Confederacy), Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Seminole (originally Creek). They pretty much adapted white man's ways and were successful farmers, loggers, builders, etc. They owned their lands, had title to the lands and paid taxes. Gold was discovered on the Cherokee lands in northern Georgia. Georgia passed a law making it illegal for any American Indian to own land and the state seized the lands. Alabama and Mississippi followed suite. The Cherokees and the Creeks appealed to the US Supreme Court and the Supremer Court ruled in the Indians favor - based on solid constitutional grounds. President Andy Jackson sided with the States and said the Supreme Court has made their decision, now let's see them enforce it. He sent US troops to forcefully remove all American Indians in the Southeast to Oklahoma.
The Cherokees made this removal infamous and they called it the Trail of Tears. Many of the Cherokees hid in the North Carolina and Tennessee mountains. The Seminoles and Miccosukees fled to Florida, then a Spanish territory. Other tribes had members hide and many of their white neighbors helped them. My ancestors hid in Alabama. One did dare admit to being an Indian or even having Indian blood. When I was growing up, most of my relatives would not talk about being part Indian. The fear of removal was still very real to them.
[quote author=DaveM link=topic=11231.msg53894#msg53894 date=1290262023]
Not a problem at all :y18:
Ok here is my first draft I sent off to them but I still have plenty of work to do on it still :y114:
Retief Kerk
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Dave, that is a very nice framework. It is attractive and easy to follow. Looking good. :y115:
Sorry to Dave for getting away from his original subject in this thread, but ...
Carl, after reading your last post I was interested to listen to your language so I went to You tube and found a number of clips. From the English translations it looks like your people have a lot in common with Australian Aboriginal people regarding removal from homelands, all very sad.
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In the South eastern US, there were five tribes, really four tribes and a confederacy of tribes. These five tribes were labeled as the Five Civilized Tribes by the whites: Creek (Confederacy), Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Seminole (originally Creek). They pretty much adapted white man's ways and were successful farmers, loggers, builders, etc. They owned their lands, had title to the lands and paid taxes. Gold was discovered on the Cherokee lands in northern Georgia. Georgia passed a law making it illegal for any American Indian to own land and the state seized the lands. Alabama and Mississippi followed suite. The Cherokees and the Creeks appealed to the US Supreme Court and the Supremer Court ruled in the Indians favor - based on solid constitutional grounds. President Andy Jackson sided with the States and said the Supreme Court has made their decision, now let's see them enforce it. He sent US troops to forcefully remove all American Indians in the Southeast to Oklahoma.
The Cherokees made this removal infamous and they called it the Trail of Tears. Many of the Cherokees hid in the North Carolina and Tennessee mountains. The Seminoles and Miccosukees fled to Florida, then a Spanish territory. Other tribes had members hide and many of their white neighbors helped them. My ancestors hid in Alabama. One did dare admit to being an Indian or even having Indian blood. When I was growing up, most of my relatives would not talk about being part Indian. The fear of removal was still very real to them.
[quote author=DaveM link=topic=11231.msg53894#msg53894 date=1290262023]
Not a problem at all :y18:
Ok here is my first draft I sent off to them but I still have plenty of work to do on it still :y114:
Retief Kerk
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Dave, that is a very nice framework. It is attractive and easy to follow. Looking good. :y115:
