I find myself in need of a new helmet and my budget won't allow the purchase of a high end one. My dealer is trying to sell me a Zox Genesis which I like except for the cosmetics and the fact that I am not familar with this brand. Does anyone know anything about this helmet? My other option is the Nolan E-100.
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fuzzy
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Not sure about either one of those. I have heard of Nolan, but have no esperience with them. I aure some old fart will give me a fit about this, but Simpson has a fine kevlar, Snell rated full face for a shade over $200 available on line, directly from Simpson. I have one, but when I bought mine, they were $300. Its called the "Fury." It is lightweight and wind noise is minimal. It also seals well on the occasional cold day we have in SOFLO. You can get a smoke colored shield for it, and the shields will interchange in seconds. There is another one called the Avenger, but it is heavier. At Wally's, you can buy a full face Bell that is DOT rated for under $100.
I think its a matter of personal preference and comfort. IMHO, they will all protect but none are idiot proof. Since they all have to pass certain standards, much of the price difference is in the quality and durability of the soft parts anyway (straps, lining, etc.)
As a practical matter, if you strike something so hard with your head that there will be a noticable difference between an inexpensive helmet and an expensive one, chances are the only ones who will know about it will be your heirs.
I think its a matter of personal preference and comfort. IMHO, they will all protect but none are idiot proof. Since they all have to pass certain standards, much of the price difference is in the quality and durability of the soft parts anyway (straps, lining, etc.)
As a practical matter, if you strike something so hard with your head that there will be a noticable difference between an inexpensive helmet and an expensive one, chances are the only ones who will know about it will be your heirs.
I agree with both Fuzzy and Dilligaf. I look for one that fits and not top end.
FarsideMichael
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I'm also looking at a new helmet (my other one is quite smashed) and found this website really useful.
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/search/results/?sort=manufacturer&dir=asc&manufacturer=0&type=0&rating=0&size=0&price=0
You don't have to pay a fortune to get a really good (safe) lid, but fit is most important.
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/search/results/?sort=manufacturer&dir=asc&manufacturer=0&type=0&rating=0&size=0&price=0
You don't have to pay a fortune to get a really good (safe) lid, but fit is most important.
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RAFIKI
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I notice that the top of the range Arai only gets 3 stars.I found out that cost is a factor and Arai is very expensive and is also quite noisy.Arai is still one of the safest if not THe safest and thats what I buy .I will sacrifice other accessories but not my helmet .
HJC, Arai ,Shark,Shoei,AGV are the ones to go for,
HJC, Arai ,Shark,Shoei,AGV are the ones to go for,
I have always run with AGV and have never had a problem with them
FarsideMichael
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I notice that the top of the range Arai only gets 3 stars.I found out that cost is a factor and Arai is very expensive and is also quite noisy.Arai is still one of the safest if not THe safest and thats what I buy .I will sacrifice other accessories but not my helmet .
HJC, Arai ,Shark,Shoei,AGV are the ones to go for,
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Yes it did puzzle me too
my RX 7 Corsair did a great job when I bashed my head in the pavement (quite hard judging by the damage) but I am seriously looking at getting a Shark RSR 2 top of the range carbon fibre/aramid composite with a 5 star rating and R3500 cheaper than my trusty RX7 
I notice that the top of the range Arai only gets 3 stars.I found out that cost is a factor and Arai is very expensive and is also quite noisy.Arai is still one of the safest if not THe safest and thats what I buy .I will sacrifice other accessories but not my helmet .
HJC, Arai ,Shark,Shoei,AGV are the ones to go for,
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Yes it did puzzle me too
my RX 7 Corsair did a great job when I bashed my head in the pavement (quite hard judging by the damage) but I am seriously looking at getting a Shark RSR 2 top of the range carbon fibre/aramid composite with a 5 star rating and R3500 cheaper than my trusty RX7
My next helmet may will be a carbon fiber; they are much lighter without sacrificing protection.
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Hit the lotto, eh????????
[/quote] :y24: :y24: I wish!!!
Seriously, I will invest in one for Mae Lyne. With her back and neck problems, she needs a lighter helmet and she wants the protection of a full face helmet.
Hit the lotto, eh????????
[/quote] :y24: :y24: I wish!!!
Seriously, I will invest in one for Mae Lyne. With her back and neck problems, she needs a lighter helmet and she wants the protection of a full face helmet.
The fit is very important. My current helmet is anything but quiet!
Like has been said, fit is probably the most important thing. However, i have always had a very hard time finding anything that fits perfect. I just bought a new helmet a couple weeks ago and it almost fit right, but the wind pulled it back a bit at speed. A couple pieces of foam at the temples attached under the padding with sticky back velcro made it fit perfect. (no, such a small amount of adjustment won't be a safety concern) I'm talking a 1/16-1/8" piece. But in any case size is important for comfort let alone safety.
As for brands, Z1R received top honors among low cost helmets a couple years ago, beating out helmets that cost 3-4 times as much. (Z1r were my last 2 helmets) but i feel any decent helmet is going to be as good as the next for protection, and noise and comfort should be your first concerns because no one really knows which will save YOU in the accident YOU end up having. It's a crap shoot as long as garbage helmets are excluded. A $80 helmet may just as likely end up saving you as a $300 one. Theres a LOT of marketing going on here ! And then noise and comfort are the remaining important considerations, and the only ones you can determine. (well, noise only if they allow you to test ride it) Helmets really are a bi*tch to choose ! I've had several i had to sell or toss because it was hard to know what they'd be like in the end.
As for brands, Z1R received top honors among low cost helmets a couple years ago, beating out helmets that cost 3-4 times as much. (Z1r were my last 2 helmets) but i feel any decent helmet is going to be as good as the next for protection, and noise and comfort should be your first concerns because no one really knows which will save YOU in the accident YOU end up having. It's a crap shoot as long as garbage helmets are excluded. A $80 helmet may just as likely end up saving you as a $300 one. Theres a LOT of marketing going on here ! And then noise and comfort are the remaining important considerations, and the only ones you can determine. (well, noise only if they allow you to test ride it) Helmets really are a bi*tch to choose ! I've had several i had to sell or toss because it was hard to know what they'd be like in the end.
I think this is the reason I just stick with what I know. At the price if you get one and find later you really don’t like it for some reason it is a lot of cash down the drain
Think it depends on what you are riding too , I have a roof helmet , and when I had the rocket loved the helmet , very quiet . But now its turned into one of the noisiest helmets , the only change is I now have a faired bike the wind hits it different and whistles through it
Not sure which I will go for next , probably an arai again ( plus a double bubble screen for the bike )
Not sure which I will go for next , probably an arai again ( plus a double bubble screen for the bike )
Gary
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I buy the cheapest gas I can find; I hate to pay anything for plain water; and will usually shop the internet for something until I have found the absolute lowest price. But I don't cut corners on protecting my head, its gonna be a Shoei for me. I also know a Shoei will fit my head and can order them over the internet with confidence.
I wore Bell Stars previously when they were the only company that made full face helmets. And before the Bell Stars I wore a variety of cheap plastic 3/4 helmets with snap-on visors (usually in some sort of metalflake finish). And yes, when I started riding, all motorcycle helmets were either leather or some sort of cardboard formed into a bowl with leather reinforcements.
There are a lot of very important factors other than protection and fit. Wind noise, warmth and cooling ability, range of replacement visors, ease of changing visors, weight (as Carl specified) and to some extent styling.
Unfortunately there are trade-offs (as the extra weight that comes with a flip face) and some brands of helmets just don't fit some heads (Arai helmets are too narrow for me for example).
A good replacement visor can cost $60; how can a $80 helmet be that good?
I wore Bell Stars previously when they were the only company that made full face helmets. And before the Bell Stars I wore a variety of cheap plastic 3/4 helmets with snap-on visors (usually in some sort of metalflake finish). And yes, when I started riding, all motorcycle helmets were either leather or some sort of cardboard formed into a bowl with leather reinforcements.
There are a lot of very important factors other than protection and fit. Wind noise, warmth and cooling ability, range of replacement visors, ease of changing visors, weight (as Carl specified) and to some extent styling.
Unfortunately there are trade-offs (as the extra weight that comes with a flip face) and some brands of helmets just don't fit some heads (Arai helmets are too narrow for me for example).
A good replacement visor can cost $60; how can a $80 helmet be that good?
Choosing a helmet is a nice idea, although, in reality it can be like walking blind folded through a mine field.
First decision should be fit. A $200 helmet that fits properly is far better than a $400 helmet that's loose.
Second decision should be weight. Your neck is in fact a lever in an accident. Lighter weight helmet is a lower g-force strain on your neck.
Third decision is brand. You get what you pay for.
Fourth and final is graphics or colour. I would recommend bright contrasting colours that stand out, but that's just me.
Helmets I've owned:
Bell moto - fibreglass, not comfy or light weight. Good though.
Bieffe xxxx - Kevlar composite, light and good helmet.
AGV xxx - Bottom of the range, crap visor system. Not a fan.
Shark RSF2i - Medium weight, comfortable and quiet. Not suited to my head though. Excellent visor system - takes 10 seconds to swap visors.Good helmet
Axo Stealth - Very light weight, comfortable but noisy as hell. Saved my head when I landed on the back of the helmet.
Shoei XR1000 - Light~ish in weight, best helmet comfort to date. Double D-ring. Quiet with the whisper strip. Killer paint job. Visor system a little tricky, but childs play compared to Arai.
Arai doesn't fit me, in hindsight neither does Shark. Would consider another Bell - but their butt ugly to me. lol
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First decision should be fit. A $200 helmet that fits properly is far better than a $400 helmet that's loose.
Second decision should be weight. Your neck is in fact a lever in an accident. Lighter weight helmet is a lower g-force strain on your neck.
Third decision is brand. You get what you pay for.
Fourth and final is graphics or colour. I would recommend bright contrasting colours that stand out, but that's just me.
Helmets I've owned:
Bell moto - fibreglass, not comfy or light weight. Good though.
Bieffe xxxx - Kevlar composite, light and good helmet.
AGV xxx - Bottom of the range, crap visor system. Not a fan.
Shark RSF2i - Medium weight, comfortable and quiet. Not suited to my head though. Excellent visor system - takes 10 seconds to swap visors.Good helmet
Axo Stealth - Very light weight, comfortable but noisy as hell. Saved my head when I landed on the back of the helmet.
Shoei XR1000 - Light~ish in weight, best helmet comfort to date. Double D-ring. Quiet with the whisper strip. Killer paint job. Visor system a little tricky, but childs play compared to Arai.
Arai doesn't fit me, in hindsight neither does Shark. Would consider another Bell - but their butt ugly to me. lol
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