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jmv2006

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Where are they now?

McLaren Automotive (previously McLaren Cars) is an English automaker established in 1989 with the object of producing road cars based on Formula One technology. It works closely with the Team McLaren Formula One constructor and is part of the McLaren Group.

Tyrrell Racing Organisation was an auto racing team and Formula One constructor founded by Ken Tyrrell and started racing in 1958, but started building its own cars in 1970. The team experienced its greatest success in the early 1970s, when it won three drivers' championships and one constructors' championship with Jackie Stewart. The team never reached such heights again, although it continued to win races through the 1970s and into the early 1980s, taking the final win for the Ford Cosworth DFV engine at Detroit in 1983. The team was bought by British American Tobacco in 1997 and completed its final season as Tyrrell in 1998, before forming the basis for the new B.A.R. team in 1999.

AC Cars: Alan Lubinsky is the current owner of, having purchased it from Brian Angliss in 1996, and has produced cars sporadically ever since. Lubinsky moved production from England to Malta, and in the fall of 2005 announced plans to begin building cars in Bridgeport, Connecticut. In March 2006, Lubinsky announced a deal with Texas-based Unique Performance to produce a Cobra-style AC MkV for the US.

Daimler Motor Company was founded in 1896, and based in Coventry. The company became a subsidiary of BSA in 1910, and was acquired by Jaguar Cars in 1960. The Daimler brand stayed with Jaguar Cars through its mergers into British Motor Holdings and British Leyland, and also when it became a private company following floatation in 1984. In 1989 the Daimler brand transferred to the Ford Motor Company when Jaguar Cars became a subsidiary of Ford's Premier Automotive Group. In March 2008 the Daimler brand was included in the deal by Ford to sell its Jaguar and Land Rover operations to Tata Motors of India.

Matchless in 1938 became part of Associated Motorcycles (AMC), producing models under its own marquee. During the amalgamations that occurred in the British motorcycle industry in the 1960s, the Matchless four-stroke twin was replaced with the Norton twin ending a long history of independent production. By 1967, the Matchless singles had ceased production. It was over.

AJS Motorcycles Ltd was established in the early 1970s when the AJS name was acquired by Fluff Brown who transferred the business to Hampshire in 1974. The business continues with a range of motorcycles from 50cc to 250cc and has a UK wide network of dealers.

BSA (motorcycle) Company merged with Andover Norton International Ltd. in 1991 to form a new BSA Group, largely producing spare parts for existing motorcycles. In December 1994, BSA Group was taken over by a newly formed BSA Regal Group. The new company, based in Southampton, has a large spares business and has produced a number of limited-edition, retro-styled motorcycles.

Brough Superior motorcycles and motor cars were made by George Brough in his Brough Superior works on Haydn Road in Nottingham, England from 1919 to 1940.

Velocette is the name given to motorcycles that were made by Veloce Ltd, in Hall Green, Birmingham, England. The late 1960s were the last years of production for Viper and Vogue ending in 1968, "Special", Scrambler and Endurance in 1969, and MSS Venom and Thruxton in 1970. Veloce Ltd. closed in February 1971,

Ariel was a bicycle, motorcycle and automobile marque manufactured based in Bournbrook, Birmingham, England. Car production moved to Coventry in 1911. Ariel motorcycles ceased production in 1967. In 1970 BSA used the name for the "Ariel 3", a 3-wheeler 50cc 2-stroke moped, different at the time because it was a tilting vehicle. The front half was hinged to the rear and could tilt into corners whilst keeping all three wheels on the ground. Production of the "Ariel 3" was short and was dropped along with the Ariel name shortly afterwards.
The company name was reused in 1999 for the formation of Ariel Ltd, a sports car producer.
 
Yes indeed, where are they now - and that's only a very small list. In England alone, since 1900, there were dozens and dozens of motorcycle manufacturers that were formed and quickly failed. Some lasted a year, some a couple of years or more, but all failed.
I guess nothing lasts forever.
The giant US auto makers are in trouble and losing billions. Let's hope they don't join that list.
 
[quote author=Rocky link=topic=1362.msg10261#msg10261 date=1220522498]
Yes indeed, where are they now - and that's only a very small list. [/quote]You can find a list with some more at:
https://www.triumphtalk.com/index.php?topic=1344.msg10204#msg10204

Here they are:
What is gone:
Rolls Royce Motor Cars is now owned by BMW, Germany
Bentley Motors is now owned by Volkswagen, Germany
Land Rover is now owned by TATA, India
Jaguar is now owned by TATA, India
MG is now owned by the Nanjing Automobile Group, China
Royal Enfield is now owned by Madras Motors, India
Norton Motorcycle Company is now owned by Kenny Dreer, USA
Triumph Cars Ltd: The trademark is currently owned by BMW, acquired when it bought the Rover Group in 1994. When it sold Rover, it kept the Triumph marque. The Phoenix Consortium, which bought Rover, tried to buy the Triumph brand, but BMW refused, saying that if Phoenix insisted, it would break the deal. The Standard marque was transferred to British Motor Heritage Limited, along with Austin, Morris, and Wolseley marques. The Austin, Morris and Wolseley marques were later sold to MG Rover Group Ltd, on the 10th December 2003. The Standard marque is still retained by British Motor Heritage who also have the licence to use the Triumph marque in relation to the sale of spares and support of the existing 'park' of Triumph cars.

What is left:
Morgan Motor Company still owned by the Morgan Family
Aston Martin is now owned by a consortium consisted of John Sinders, an Aston Martin collector; and two Kuwaiti investment companies, Investment Dar and Adeem Investment Co.
Mini is still a British automotive brand owned by the German BMW Group that has produced a redesign of the traditional Mini in Oxford, England since April 2001.
Lotus was sold to Perusahaan Otomobil Nasional Bhd (Proton), a Malaysian car company.
TVR is now owned by Nikolay Smolensky a Russian citizen (apparently he will keep production in the UK)
Triumph Motorcycles is owned by John Bloor but he is not a Norman Hyde or a Jack Lilley. He is a businessman who never rode a motorbike in his life. If he gets a good profit he will sell. :y22: :y20:
 
It may be a narrow view on the demise of the British Motor Industry but my own opinion is the main cause was the Trade Unions, who made production of anything to a set standard or time scale nigh on impossible. Coupled with (especially the bike industry) a failure to take the Japanese invasion into a vibrant market as a serious threat.
How often did i hear the term "Jap Crap" by Brit bikers in the 60,s .

Geoff.
 
[quote author=Geoff587 link=topic=1362.msg10270#msg10270 date=1220528746]
...the main cause was the Trade Unions who made production of anything to a set standard or time scale nigh on impossible...[/quote]Absolutely! :y105: :y105: :y105:
After the IIWW until the late 50s the British Motor Industry (and Aeronautical as well!) was FAR ahead of any other in the ALL world. :y22:
And then came the Labour Party (Harold Wilson 1964/1970 and 1974/1976) and together with them the strikes... :y41:
 
[quote author=CarlS link=topic=1362.msg10298#msg10298 date=1220533733]
Kenny Dreer has sold Norton to a new group.
[/quote]do you know which, Carl? I try to keep track of these things
 
I was there and cheering for Martin Brundle and his Tyrrell at the Detroit GP in 1983. I recall he'd lost his nose section and you could actually see his feet working the pedals.

There was also BRM in F-1.
 
[quote author=The Seeker link=topic=1362.msg10332#msg10332 date=1220537823]
There was also BRM in F-1
[/quote]Indeed! Not only in formula 1 but in several competition motor racings
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British Racing Motors
Check:
http://members.madasafish.com/~d_hodgkinson/brmcars.htm
 
Some more:

Bristol Cars is a manufacturer of hand-built luxury cars, based at Filton, near Bristol, England. Bristol Cars has no distributors nor dealers and deals directly with customers; they have a showroom in Kensington in London. They claim to be the last wholly British-owned luxury car builder. The cars have never been made in large quantities.

Sunbeam was a marque registered by John Marston Co. Ltd of Wolverhampton, England, in 1888. The company first made bicycles, then motorcycles and cars from the late 19th century to circa 1936, and applied the marque to all three forms of transportation. A Sunbeam was the first British car to win a Grand Prix race, and set a number of land speed records. The remains were purchased by Peugeot and Renault in 1978, and the name has not been used since.
 
I can't recall the exact model name (Dart????), but a guy about a mile from me owns a Daimler SP250.....it's a wild-looking fibreglass bodied car with a 2.5 Liter HEMI engine.

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Another guy not far from me owns a Jensen with a huge Chrysler 440 Hemi under the hood.

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I also see a white Jensen-Healey running around every so often but I don't know who owns it.

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A friend of mine in High School bought a Sunbeam - Alpine as his first car.

Not being a Tiger....it was underpowered, lacked a synchromesh gearbox, leaked rain water everywhere, and was cold in the Winter.

I hated that POS car!
 
Jensen Motors, Ltd was a British manufacturer of sports cars and commercial vehicles, based in West Bromwich (in the West Midlands west of Birmingham).
Jensen Motors ceased trading in May 1976.
Far preceding the Audi Quattro, it was the first non all-terrain production car equipped with 4WD The Jensen FF, the letters standing for Ferguson Formula, Ferguson Research being the inventor of the full-time all wheel drive system adopted, the first on a production sports car. Also featured was the Dunlop Maxaret anti-lock braking system in one of the first uses of ABS in a production car. Outwardly, the only differences from the Interceptor were four extra inches of length (all ahead of the windscreen) and a second row of air vents behind the front wheels. 320 FFs were constructed, and production ceased in 1971.

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[quote author=gumpt1oo link=topic=1362.msg10438#msg10438 date=1220596280]
Don't forget CCM.[/quote]Thank you gumpt1oo :y18:
Let's make a good encyclopaedia here :y115:

Armstrong-CCM Motorcycles was a British motorcycle manufacturer. Based in Bolton Lancashire. Alan Clews formed CCM in 1971 from what was left of BSA's off-road competition team and bought spares to produce his own motorcycles. This was a successful business and the Bolton factory was established. In 1981 Armstrong bought a majority share and Clews designed a road race competition motorcycle. They acquired the rights to the Rotax engine enduro motorcycle SWM XN Tornado from the Italian owners and developed the Armstrong MT500 military motorcycle used by the British Army in the Falklands war.
For most of the 1980s Armstrong-CCM was producing about 3,500 trails and motocross bikes, as well as the military off-road machines. Electric start models were built for the Jordanian and Canadian armed forces.
In 1983, the Canadian company Bombardier Recreational Products licensed the brand and outsourced development and production of the Can-Am motorcycles to Armstrong-CCM who produced Can-Ams until closure in 1987 when Armstrong sold the military motorcycle business to Harley Davidson and CCM back to Clews, who continues to produce motorcycles to this day.
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I'm not sure if this will count.
In 2001 Carl Fogarty together with Petronas, built the Foggy Petronas Superbike.
They are based in Burton on Trent in England but I'm not sure if the bikes where built there.
They had to produce 1000 road bikes (i think it was 1000) in order to homolgate the bike so they could compete in the World Superbikes.
http://www.trymysport.co.uk/sports_news/foggy_petronas_racing/foggy_petronas_racing_news_index.htm
They were very expensive 3 cylinder machines!
 
[quote author=gumpt1oo link=topic=1362.msg10445#msg10445 date=1220598536]
I'm not sure if this will count.[/quote]Everything counts! :y18:
Petronas joined forces with four-time Superbike World champion Carl Fogarty to form a racing team - Foggy Petronas Racing - to participate in the Superbike World Championship.

From 2003 the FIM changed the rules to allow 1000 cc machines (either twins, triples or four-cylinder) to race. The FP1 was developed under the previous regulations (that limited the engine displacement for 3 cylinder to 900cc), as a result the motorcycle was at a disadvantage from the rest of the field.

With the Japanese manufacturers limiting their involvement for 2003 and 2004, the FP1 was able to have some good results, finishing on the podium twice in 2004. With Japanese motorcycles returning in 2005 the FP1 fell behind and by 2006 it was straggling to finish it the points. Petronas terminated the superbike project at the end of 2006
 
Connaught Engineering was a Formula One and sports car constructor from Britain. Their cars participated in 18 Grands Prix, entering a total of 52 races with their A, B, and C Type Grand Prix Cars. They achieved 1 podium and scored 17 championship points. The name Connaught is a pun on Continental Autos, the garage in Send, Surrey, which specialised in sales and repair of european sports cars such as Bugatti, and where the cars were built.

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In addition they built a small number of road going sports cars developed on the Lea Francis Sports Chassis, which achieved considerable competition success. These were of types L2 and L3, and three examples of the stark Cycle Winged L3/SR Sports Racer. Two sports cars, based on the A Type Formula 2 cars, the ALSRs were also built for competition work. In 1962, Jack Fairman attempted to qualify for the Indianapolis 500 in a Connaught race car, but failed to find the necessary speed to make the field.

In 2004, the Connaught name was revived by Connaught Motor Company for their Type D Syracuse and Type D-H hybrid supercars.

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