Britain: Catholics and first-born daughters to be allowed on throne

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The 300-year-old rule excluding Catholics from the throne is set to be abolished under plans drawn up by Downing Street.

The reforms would also put an end to the automatic male succession - so if Prince William's eldest child turned out to be a girl she would be his heir.

The blueprint is the work of MP Chris Bryant, who has been charged by Gordon Brown with reviewing the UK constitution.

It would also limit the power of the Privy Council.

According to The Guardian, which has long campaigned for the changes, the Government would like to see them implemented quickly if Labour won a fourth term at the next general election.

Legislation including the 1701 Act of Settlement bars all Catholics and anyone married to a Catholic from reigning and forces any monarch coming to the throne to reject Catholicism.

Leading QC Geoffrey Robertson told the newspaper: 'I welcome this as two small steps towards a more rational constitution.'

A Downing Street spokesman said the Government was 'always ready to consider the arguments' surrounding the issue.

But the Prime Minister is not believed to have been personally involved in the process and it is not Government policy.

'To bring about changes to the law on succession would be a complex undertaking involving amendment or repeal of a number of items of related legislation, as well as requiring the consent of legislatures of member nations of the Commonwealth,' the spokesman said.

'As the Secretary of State for Justice said in the Commons on March 25, we are of course aware of the concerns felt by many and we are always ready to consider the arguments in this complex area.'

Mr Bryant confirmed that he had submitted his proposals to No10, but would not be drawn on their contents.

In a pamphlet published last week by the Local Government Association, he argued that forcing the monarch to swear to preserve the Church of England and uphold the Protestant line of succession almost certainly represented a breach of human rights.

And he suggested it was 'inconceivable' that, should Prince William have a daughter before a son, she would not be the one to eventually take the throne. Sweden, he pointed out, has already changed its law to deal with such a situation.

In Britain, the line of succession places Princess Anne, the Queen's second child, below her brothers Andrew and Edward - 10 and 14 years her junior respectively.

More recently Lady Louise Windsor, the four-year-old daughter of Edward and his wife Sophie, was placed lower in the line of succession than her younger brother, one-year-old James.

The MP, who is a former priest, also argued for reform of the constitutional role of the Church of England and of the 'strange' powers of the Privy Council.

A future coronation would have to be 'radically different' from that of the present Queen's, he suggested, 'to recognise the monarch's role in protecting the freedoms of all citizens and subjects, rather than just the Church of England'.

Liberal Democrat equalities spokeswoman Lynne Featherstone today welcome the 'overdue' move.

She said: 'Whilst the hereditary principle itself is obviously still a bit dodgy, at least this modernisation ends the outrageous discrimination against Catholics and women.

'It was completely unfair that Prince Edward's daughter was bumped down the list of succession in favour of her younger brother,' she said.

'As we chip away at the established order, the message will eventually get through that men and women are equal.'

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1061514/Catholics-born-daughters-allowed-throne-massive-reform-constitution.html?ITO=1490
 
That's why I posted it as I'd just like to take the temperature of our British Brothers on this one.

I personally am ambivalent on the topic...it's totally up to the Brits to do as they please - who am I to say.

By the way, it's not posted in any type of political sense.
 
As the saying goes "chicks rule... "

I think discrimination on gender is stupid and outdated, we all know that women make better rulers :silent:

As to the religious stuff - who cares?
 
Being a Brit a Royalist and a Protestant male chauvinist pig I have my own private views on this subject. But regardeless of the outcome I,ll have to work and be taxed to the maximum on earnings and savings until the day I die.

Long live the Queen. :y65: :y18:
 
[quote author=Lioness link=topic=1893.msg12975#msg12975 date=1222406298]
As the saying goes "chicks rule... "

I think discrimination on gender is stupid and outdated, we all know that women make better rulers :silent:

As to the religious stuff - who cares?
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Chicks rule...., they do in my house! On saturday my wife will have ruled me for 22 happy years !
As for the religious stuff, I dont have any religious belief's, If there was a 'good guy god' out there somewhere why did 9/11, 7/7, Bali, Omargh etc happen? but that's a whole other topic.
The bit that worries me is the reason for the changes, The article said,

'A future coronation would have to be 'radically different' from that of the present Queen's, he suggested, 'to recognise the monarch's role in protecting the freedoms of all citizens and subjects, rather than just the Church of England'.'

What it meant is 'don't upset the muslims'

This should be our countries motto, because everything that seems to happen here is for that reason. We now have areas where sharia law is accepted in certain cases, schoolgirls have been sent home from school for wearing a crucifix in a christian country, but the muslim girls can wear the hijab. I read yesterday that the architects for the olympic stadium being built in London for 2012 has employed a consultant to ensure none of the toilets face mecca!
One paragraph did make me smile though,
'according to the Guardian, which has long campaigned for the changes, the Government would like to see them implemented quickly if Labour won a fourth term at the next general election.'
i've more chance of walking on the moon than that happening!

:y24: :y24:
 
'A future coronation would have to be 'radically different' from that of the present Queen's, he suggested, 'to recognise the monarch's role in protecting the freedoms of all citizens and subjects, rather than just the Church of England'.'

What it meant is 'don't upset the muslims'

Gump, that is exactly the way I interpreted it. It was my very first thought. That attitude on the part of your government will be the downfall of Great Britain. We many folks here that do not grasp that Islam is a totally intolerant way of life. There is no peaceful coexistence in their philosophy/theology.
 
[quote author=The Seeker link=topic=1893.msg12993#msg12993 date=1222436421]
Of course, due to this gesture or harmony by Great Britain, all Muslim nations will now allow a non-Muslim to become ruler of their countries as well.

Right?
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Yeah, you can count on it (heavy sarcasm)
 
Heavens alive! Just now the "royal men" will be allowed to marry a tart instead of a certified virgin! How will the world cope with all this change? I'm not British or a royalist but I do believe that some institutions should just not be tampered with. I'm soooooooo sick of the Muslim thing being pandered to worldwide. If I elected to move to a Muslim state, would my Christian beliefs, rights, law blah blah blah be respected. Hmmm, let me think about that.
 

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